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The Bible book of Genesis written about 1400 BC (by Moses during & after the Exodus) does not say WHEN the beginning of creation was but simply states that God was the creator and that he “created” it. The 6,000 years going back to the man Adam may be fairly accurate as arrived at by the attempts of genealogists but the “original creation” may have been eons ago. Even if it was, I do not believe in an evolutionary process of species evolving into higher species.

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What you don't seem to

What you don't seem to understand is that nobody asks you to believe in an evolution process anymore than nobody asks you to believe in gravity, it just is. So if you have other beliefs that contradict evolution theory or gravitational theory, then either find a way around it or live with it, but you will never be able to go far in any discussion if you bring religion into the argument, because religion is only good for those who already believe in it, for others it's total bullshit, a fairy tales and nothing more. I'm not saying that to be hard on your beliefs, only stating the truth.

James, I'm not directing this

James,

I'm not directing this reply toward you whatsoever but I almost fell off my computer chair when I saw yet again that this was the subject I get a reply on! It is a very touchy and controversial area and always gets a rise out of people on both sides of the debate. I have several dozen articles out there on this subject and I'll be brief in saying that I point out that the fossil record especially doesn't contain proof of evolution although it does contain proof of a very ancient earth. Cell studies including DNA and proteins can just as easily point to intelligent design as they do to an evoluionary process. Scientific announcements have been made for decades that claim more proof of evolution and the much of the public simply accepts it. Amazingly when you ask most people why they believe evolution as a proven theory, they can't give specifics but usually just say to the effect because it's as much fact as gravity is etc... I promise I'm not quoting you and definitely not mocking, I'm pointing out that the "fact" and "gravity" analogy is often quoted more as an impress technique when subtance of facts is what's needed when presenting the evolution side of the debate (no offense intended whatsoever). You absolutely cannot observe evolution if it were factual because it is a process proposed to take millions of years for even the most min-ute change to occur. Cell evolution, so-called and DNA changes are simply the observance of changes during the lifetime of cells, just like a person changes during their lifetime. Huge stretches have been placed in study conclusions such as proposed observance of adaptation changes seen in DNA that go beyond what is actually occurring. These actually should be there in-perspective because a degree of adaptation and natural selection (in-balance) would be fallacy if left out even when looked at from creation standpoint. The evolution of lower species to higher species is what is really the debate and I do not believe it has been proven, nor do I believe it ever will be.
I'm not alone in believing evoltionary theory as unproven. There are many associations of scientists organized for the purpose of creation science research, including The Creation Research Society, The Discovery Institute and The Institute for Creation Research. Over 700 Scientists from every field signed a petition in 2008 (many with Doctorates), offered by the Discovery Institute stating that they do not believe evolution can explain or account for the "complexity of life" and that they believe the theory needs re-evaluated on an ongoing basis. In other words, they see the same problems most of us see and the incrediblly large amount of holes and unanswered questions the theory poses.
I stated this somewhat straightforwardly but please don't see it as an attack because I totally respect your opinion. I'm just expressing my right of opinion and belief. The majority of people in the U.S, for example do not accept the theory of evolution (only 39%). While a larger percent of scientists do believe in it, much of the reason is because scientific study largely looks at scientific theory (it has a strong definition) and they for the most part are obligated to leave out of studies, anything that is not related to physics.
I didn't intend to post so long but needed to express my stance and why I offer my side which in my opinion helps bring perspective just as two sides are needed for any debated. Thanks for commenting!
(Added: also, you can't leave belief out of a position that looks at creationism because whatever brings something into exisense is also what sustains it from that view. It's not necessarily a religious view, some people believe in direct creation but do not claim a religion.)

OK I think I hear you, but

OK I think I hear you, but let's see what we have here:
- On one hand, creationism is entirely derived from a book compiled from very old beliefs, there are absolutely no scientific basis in this belief, it's taken from religious books and only after some scientists try to look at it in order to find how it is possible to prove it right.
- On the other hand, for evolution you have an explanation from a naturalist about 200 years ago who looked at a lot of species and came up with a rough theory which is against the main religion and that's why he delayed publication of his work for many years. This theory has been refined by biologists as research went on and is now accepted as a fact.

There's no controversy in the biologist community, the controversy is only political and religious. I know that what is difficult to overcome is the precise description of how God made man and all the animals, how he created the world. If you cannot delete this part, then you're stuck with creationism. But if you, and some religious people did, take this description as an image only, then you can go on believing in God while recognizing evolution as it is, but you can say that God created the world through evolution, it ends up being an even more powerful God because he can do this which is very much more difficult than just creating animals and men already made.
But I understand that if you decided that you cannot take the description of how God created everything as a simple image, then you're stuck with trying to show why evolution theory is probably false and how it is unproven, etc. You can make arguments for non scientists like atheists like me, but you couldn't make arguments with a biologist, because a biologist would probably have things to answer you about those topics, which I don't have.

But one thing I know is that evolution makes sense to me, and without any need for a God. Of course it doesn't answer some (lots of) questions like how life emerged on earth, and is there life on other planets, and how was the universe created. Evolution theory is not about answering those questions anyway, but it's an explanation for the living world, the diversity and adaptations of life around us. And it helps integrating human in the animal world, which religion always tries to set apart, like if human was not an animal for the sole reason that God decided it so.

Anyway I'm sure you and I have no ambition to solve this "problem" here on ShetoldMe's comments, hahahaha. But it's always fun to have a chat about that, only if we both disagree on the topic, if we agree then there's no fun in talking about it :-)

James, Your comments are

James,
Your comments are really well stated and I appreciate your politeness in stating them (I like your style.). I agree too that debate never hurts because it's how people who participate in them or at least read/observe them, make descisions on where they stand or in how they might adjust their stance to some degree, if at all.
I know for example that there are people who believe in an evolutionary process but they believe it was set in motion by a higher power, so is kind of a mix of intelligent design and evolution. I'm of the direct creation belief but is also in the intelligent design category.
Religious books from all over the world make statements about creation and a creator and not the Bible-only and most were written without the writers ever having met or read eachother's writings. As one statement in the Bible points out, the existence of things around us and how magnificent they are is one major reason many believe in intelligent design and not because it is written in a text.
I realize some people believe that belief in a higher power, supreme being or omnipotent force some call God and some call the great spirit or the universal conciousness etc..., is an outdated idea. They might put it in the religious or philosophy category but to me personally it makes sense like evolution makes sense to you. I believe it is just as logical to believe in a creator as is to believe in the evolution of all things over a process of time.
Some people think it takes more faith to believe in one or the other and it really does boil down to choice and not necessarily proof. Like you said, it's what makes the most sense to us because both views will forever be disputed. Like you, I enjoy spirited debate but I shy away from it when it reaches attack level. We should all appreciate our right and that of others, to choose the answers we see as truth for each of us.
BTW: I have more articles in this same area I'll be bookmarking here at SheToldMe. I published them all starting several years ago. Though written straigtforward, hopefully none come across as containing anything outside of considerate debate.

Thanks again for the comments!

I think you're right when you

I think you're right when you say it is as logical to believe in a creator than to believe in the evolutionary process, it all depends on the basic choice we make at the start: do we believe in a God or not? If we believe in a God then it is logical that he could have created everything that is our current world, and if we don't believe in a God then the theory of evolution gives us a logical path to get to what we can see today around us.

So that's why you can find very intelligent/logical people on both "sides" of the argument, because it both make sense depending on what you choose to believe in at the start. And then you can also believe in a God AND in the theory of evolution and still be logical as the category we previously pointed out.

Very well put again and I

Very well put again and I agree 100%.
I try to never see fault in choices people make in what beliefs they hold-to although I might disagree with the belief itself and I will at times express my reasons for holding to one belief and not another. I know that we all continue to seek answers throughout our lifetimes.